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 Angelyz's Guide to Best Venomancer Pets v2.2

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PostSubject: Angelyz's Guide to Best Venomancer Pets v2.2   Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:23 pm

IMPORTANT UPDATE! This guide is old but still very relevant. Since the time that I wrote this guide and became the 1st PWI player to build pets that could defeat Herc and Nix, PWI has since released a new expansion that included 2 newer cash shop pets that are way better once again. That said, this guide is strictly for the building of pets that are better or equal to Herc and Nix only.

I have reverted this guide back to its original form (with updates) after someone took it upon themselves to make changes to MY work on the wiki site. And I have left my response to that person intact as you will see. This person tried to debunk my personal testing and experience by using graphs and tables about each pet that I've already tested and verified, and they failed. As I stated in my update to the guide after reverting it back, no table or graph can ever predict human interaction, etc.


This guide is intended to be a tool in helping out some of the PWI players who refuse to spend money or do not have the money to spend on the game when it comes to veno pets or whatever the case may be. It's written in my own words and from my own point of view through numerous experiences within Perfect World. As always, my knowledge that I pour into my guides comes from 100% tested experience. My methods are not the only methods, and they are guaranteed to work, better than average in most cases. By all means, explore other methods and do what feels the best for you!

This guide is also intended to be a separate addition to my previously written guide "Angelyz's Guide to Venomancers". For information on any pet strategy, skill, or other info I strongly urge you to check out that guide. This guide is also intended for basic level 1 through 105 without reawakening, but contains elements useful for any level.

Allow me to introduce myself... My name is Angelyz and I am a Veno on Tideswell server. I have put forth much time and have gone through more pets and pet skills than you can imagine in order to give you my best possible solution and advice on what pets you should get. Whether you can or can't afford to pay $60.00 - $90.00 (roughly) of real life money to get one of the two good pets, this guide is still for you. So listen up, you might learn something.

One thing to keep in mind is that there are two ways you can go in the game with pets. You can go the "earning" route or the "convenience" route. If convenience is what you want, by all means, buy the cash shop pets. If you would rather earn your way and get that feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction, then follow my guide and I'll show you that you can build pets that are equal to or better than the cash shop pets.

Types of Venomancer Pets

OK, so first of all, there are 3 basic types of pets you will need in PWI. These are land, air, and water pets. Of these types of pets, the water pet is the one you will use the least since there really aren't all that many water based quests when compared to other quests. Because of this, I'm not going to go into too much detail on water pets other than to tell you to just tame whatever is the closest to your level when it comes time to do a water quest.

To be fair though, I do recommend taming a "Celestial Plumpfish" as your final water pet at level 80. This is the water pet that I have found to be the toughest and best tanking pet for underwater battle. In order to keep a water pet at your level you will need to do a lot of grinding on mobs your own level or above.

The air pets may be used both in the air or on ground; however, using a flying pet on the ground tends to get the pet stuck in the ground at times due to an in-game glitch. Stowing and re-summoning usually fixes this but it could mean getting hit a few times or possibly dying, so I would suggest using them for what they're meant for, air combat!

Now, when it comes to flying pets, the best choice at a low level is the "Blazing Phoenix" also known as "Nix". This pet can be purchased from the cash shop with roughly about $90.00 US dollars (give or take). You will need to spend that money on 9,999 "Phoenix Feathers" and combine them at the Zoologist to get your Nix.

Nix is primarily used in PvP battles because of its high damage output due to its Physical Attack buff it comes with. It's truly a great pet to have, but to be honest, Nix is one of the two reasons that I am writing this guide. This is because there are pets that can defeat Nix that you can go out and tame for free. With less of the money you would spend to buy a Nix, you can obtain a few select skills that will help in making your pet as good as Nix.

I bet you're wondering which pets now aren't you? As a Venomancer you will start in City of the Lost upon reaching level 20 and exiting the Celestial Vale. From here, you can go right outside of the city entrance and tame a "Varicose Scorpion", which I highly recommend. Assuming that you chose the scorpion like I recommended, you now have a ground pet who (with the right skills) can defeat Nix with a much higher damage output. I will give you the low down on that in a bit....

Now you may be asking, what about an air pet to take on Nix instead of the land based scorpion? That's a very good question!! I give you... The "Petite Sawfly" air pet. This pet can be tamed in areas around City of the Plume and City of the Lost at level 83. Again, with the right skills obtained at high levels for less than the cost of Nix, you can make this flyer out-damage and kill a Nix of the same level in a duel. This pet was originally a level 8 mob back before the Celestial Vale came along. Since it was nerfed to level 83, they did indeed add some other lower level flyers that are tameable in the same species line. Just look for the giant bee/wasps. Most of the newest ones are green and they tend to linger in the starting areas of the world (after the vale).

The final type of pet is the land pet obviously. There are two types of land pets which are the "tank" and the "DD" pets. DD stands for Damage Doer to most people, or Direct Damage to others. The difference between the two are the HP, Physical Attack, and Physical Defense attributes. Tank pets are the ones that have higher HP and Physical Defense. They can take more damage between heals than that of a DD pet such as the varicose scorpion. DD pets typically have lower HP, lower Physical Defense, and higher Physical Attack than tank pets.

At level 89 I had the pleasure of testing both the Scorpion and the Sawfly against a Nix of the same level. In both circumstances, my pets defeated Nix in head to head duels. This time it was after I had added the "Claw" skills to both pets. Previous testing before owning that particular skill resulted in duel losses every time, and even more losses before they each had "Reflect". Their current skill lineups are listed below.

Finally, there is the the tank pet known as "Hercules" or "Herc" for short. This is the 2nd of the two original cash shop pets which, again, will run you about the same cost as Nix by purchasing 9,999 "Source of Force" from the cash shop and combining them at the Zoologist. The Herc pet comes with its own Bramble as well as a nice Physical Defense buff. Herc is truly a force to be reckoned with at low levels; however, the Glacial Walker pet is not far behind.

Glacial Walkers can be tamed at level 26 for free and again, with the right skills at high level, it can defeat Herc. I tested this theory at level 89 against a level 89 herc, here were my results...

Using the Glacial Walker with Roar, Strong, Flesh Ream, and Tough, I was able to defeat herc in a duel. It required the use of Tough the instant it became available again. In our duel, the pets lasted the entire cooldown minute, no heals were given by either veno. I was able to hit the Tough skill once more to allow for the win at the very end. Combined with using Flesh Ream, the DPS output from the Glacial Walker exceeded that of the herc to make up for the extra damage he was taking from herc's Reflect buff. The Hp on the Glacial Walker stayed consistent with herc due to its extra damage during the fight.

There is obviously info out there which show exact statistic's for each pet with certain buffs. But I do not follow those and they do not prove that one pet is as good as another. I will tell you why. Very Happy

The herc may be way above the Glacial Walker's league in terms of Hp and defense, and less on its damage output. Here is why I do not trust tables like the one that was formerly put here by someone who took it upon themselves to change MY work rather than contacting me. The table only shows what the pets stats are with certain buffs, but it doesn't and never will account for human interaction. No table can ever show how frequent the user uses each skill, in which order they use them, and how much extra dps is coming from random means such as crits. Tables only show the stats of each pet at its default level without human interaction.

Herc and Glacial Walker are both tanks and are not meant for pvp. However, when testing various pets to use as a primary tank pet, I personally want the best. Therefore, I want a pet that can defeat or hold it's own against a pet like herc, and the only real way of achieving that is to build one and fight a herc of the same level to see how it does. To be clear, I only did this with the Glacial Walker, I did not put a Magmite up against herc. Although I do believe that with the skills listed in the next section for the magmite, it could at least hold its own against herc. Buffed stats on a table can't predict frequency of skills used, crits, or human interaction as I stated above.

Keep in mind, this guide along with all other guides that I have written are direct instructions on what I have accomplished myself, and how I did it, as well as educated recommendations based on previous testing and a knowledge of how the recommendations will improve the outcome of said testing in future tries. My duels have been for testing purposes to compare various pet builds to the games best pets. To players who already own Nix and Herc, using my skill lineup for them can make them more powerful than they already are if done right. This particular guide however, is written for those who cannot afford to buy those pets, and are looking for a pet they can build themselves over time that are just as good as the cash shop pets when they reach higher levels.

The following is a breakdown of what skills and what pets should have these skills in order to defeat Herc and Nix, as well as PvE purposes. Assuming that you've read my guide to venos, I'm not gonna explain what each skill does in the following, I'll just list the skills that I suggest for these particular pets if you want to get the most out of them in PvP or PvE...

PvP and PvE Damage Pet (Verified Nix defeat using these skills): Varicose Scorpion ~ Bash > Reflect > Claw > Flesh Ream OR Bloodthirst/Bloodhunger

PvP and PvE Flying Damage Pet (Verified Nix defeat using these skills): Petite Sawfly ~ Bash > Reflect > Claw > Flesh Ream OR Bloodthirst/Bloodhunger

PvE Tank Pet (Verified Herc defeat using these skills): Glacial Walker ~ Roar > Tough > Strong > Flesh Ream OR Bloodthirst/Bloodhunger

PvE Backup Tank pet (Not verified but believed to be a worthy lineup to hold its own against Herc): Volcanic Magmite ~ Claw > Strong > Blessing of the Pack > Flesh Ream OR Bloodthirst/Bloodhunger

PvE Water Pet: Celestial Plumpfish ~ Claw > Strong > Reflect > Flesh Ream OR Bloodthirst/Bloodhunger

So there you have it. The Scorpion and the Sawfly with that set of skills can and will defeat a Nix of the same level depending on methods of human interaction. The Walker is the same against Herc. I included the Magmite because it is always good to have a backup tank to summon if and when the Walker dies.

Now, in response to the changes to my work here, which I've reverted back, I have made the proper changes to the original information to be more clear on various things mentioned by the person who made changes to my work.

As always in my guides, information presented in my guides is what worked for me. My way is not the only way, it is but one of many styles of play and verified through actual experience. Please respect the authors work and do not make changes.

In Closing

Everyone has their own taste in pets, some go for looks, some go for power, and some go for both. In this guide, I focus on power. This guide goes out to and is dedicated to those of you who cannot afford or do not wish to spend the outrageous cost of buying Herc and Nix. Who knows? Maybe this will even save some of you some money that you had planned on spending on Herc and Nix.

I am in no way trying to persuade anyone to "not" buy these two great pets. However, if your plan is to buy them, ask yourself the following...

1. Is it really worth it to spend that kind of real money for convenience just to have pets that are good from the get go and require no skilling?

2. Would I rather earn equal or better pets that will still get me through just about anything even before I obtain the right skills for them and not spend a penny of real life money?

NOTE: These skills can be used at low levels as well, and all pet skills are now sold at the Zoologist. Do not be fooled by the folks still trying to sell the rare pet skills in the auction house for 20+ million when you can buy them at the Zoo for 1.25 million now.

It's a win/win situation! Save money and have better or equal pets, the choice is yours. Don't get me wrong, these are all great pets and I would recommend any one of them. If you read this guide after already purchasing Herc and Nix, don't be discouraged, you have great pets who will get you through almost anything!

I hope that you have enjoyed my guides and learned from them. It has been a pleasure for me to write all that I have in order to lend a helping hand to as many venos as I can. See you on the battlefield!

Llux - Level 110 Dark Elf Warrior of Everquest
Angelyz - Level 97 RB1 Untamed Venomancer of PWI
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